Thursday, June 18, 2015

Are there two selves?

Devotee:  Is there not the individuality? I fear to lose my individual being. Is there not in consciousness the consciousness of being human?

Ramana Maharishi:  Why fear to lose individuality? What is your state in dreamless sleep? Are you conscious of your individuality then?

Devotee:  It is possible.

Ramana Maharishi:  But what is your experience? If individuality be there, would it be deep sleep?

Devotee:  That depends on the interpretation. What does Maharshi say?

Ramana Maharishi:  Maharshi cannot speak for your experience. He does not force anything down your throat.

Devotee:  I know. That is why I like Him and His teachings so much.

Ramana Maharishi:  Do you not really prepare your bed and are you not anxious to lose your individuality in deep sleep? Why fear it?

Devotee:  What is the nirvana of Buddha?

Ramana Maharishi:  Loss of individuality.

Devotee:  I dread that loss. Can there not be human consciousness in nirvana?

Ramana Maharishi:  Are there two selves in that case? Consider your present experience of sleep and say.

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