Ramana Maharishi: Creation is to be considered in its two aspects, Isvara srishti (God’s creation) and jiva srishti (individual’s creation). Of these two, the universe is the former, and its relation to the individual is the latter. It is the latter which gives rise to pain and pleasure, irrespective of the former. A story was mentioned from Panchadasi. There were two young men in a village in South India. They went on a pilgrimage to North India. One of them died. The survivor, who was earning something, decided to return only after some months. In the meantime he came across a wandering pilgrim whom he asked to convey the information regarding himself and his dead companion to the village in South India. The wandering pilgrim did so, but by mistake changed the names. The result was that the dead man’s parents rejoiced in his safety and the living one’s parents were in grief. Thus, you see, pain or pleasure has no reference to facts but to mental conceptions. Jiva Srishti is responsible for it. Kill the jiva and there is no pain or pleasure but the mental bliss persists forever. Killing the jiva is to abide in the Self.
When we read Talks with Sri Ramana Maharishi the attention is turned towards us rather than the response to the question. Bhagavan reminds and repeats throughout the book “You are the Self, nothing but the Self, anything else is just imagination, so BE the Self here and now.” By reading those conversations, with the grace of Bhagavan let us question (doubt) the questioner (doubter), perform self-inquiry, recognize the Self and abide in and as the Self. Please check out for a new post every day.
Friday, December 11, 2015
Kill the jiva and there is no pain or pleasure but the mental bliss persists forever.
Ramana Maharishi: Creation is to be considered in its two aspects, Isvara srishti (God’s creation) and jiva srishti (individual’s creation). Of these two, the universe is the former, and its relation to the individual is the latter. It is the latter which gives rise to pain and pleasure, irrespective of the former. A story was mentioned from Panchadasi. There were two young men in a village in South India. They went on a pilgrimage to North India. One of them died. The survivor, who was earning something, decided to return only after some months. In the meantime he came across a wandering pilgrim whom he asked to convey the information regarding himself and his dead companion to the village in South India. The wandering pilgrim did so, but by mistake changed the names. The result was that the dead man’s parents rejoiced in his safety and the living one’s parents were in grief. Thus, you see, pain or pleasure has no reference to facts but to mental conceptions. Jiva Srishti is responsible for it. Kill the jiva and there is no pain or pleasure but the mental bliss persists forever. Killing the jiva is to abide in the Self.
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