Devotee: Is not the world reflected on the Self?
Ramana Maharishi: For reflection there must be an object and an image. But the Self does not admit of these differences.
Devotee: Does not then Bhagavan see the world?
Ramana Maharishi: Whom do you mean by Bhagavan?
Devotee: A jiva advanced more than I.
Ramana Maharishi: If you understand your jiva the other jiva is also understood.
Devotee: I do not want to discuss. I want to learn. Please instruct me.
Ramana Maharishi: Because you desire to learn, discussion is unavoidable. Leave all this aside. Consider your sleep. Are you then aware of bondage or do you seek means for release? Are you then aware of the body itself? The sense of bondage is associated with the body. Otherwise there is no bondage, no material to bind with and no one to be bound. These appear, however, in your wakeful state. Consider to whom they appear.
Devotee: To the mind.
Ramana Maharishi: Watch the mind. You must stand aloof from it. You are not the mind. And the Self will remain ever.
Ramana Maharishi: For reflection there must be an object and an image. But the Self does not admit of these differences.
Devotee: Does not then Bhagavan see the world?
Ramana Maharishi: Whom do you mean by Bhagavan?
Devotee: A jiva advanced more than I.
Ramana Maharishi: If you understand your jiva the other jiva is also understood.
Devotee: I do not want to discuss. I want to learn. Please instruct me.
Ramana Maharishi: Because you desire to learn, discussion is unavoidable. Leave all this aside. Consider your sleep. Are you then aware of bondage or do you seek means for release? Are you then aware of the body itself? The sense of bondage is associated with the body. Otherwise there is no bondage, no material to bind with and no one to be bound. These appear, however, in your wakeful state. Consider to whom they appear.
Devotee: To the mind.
Ramana Maharishi: Watch the mind. You must stand aloof from it. You are not the mind. And the Self will remain ever.
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